Atticus – New Formatting Software for Writers

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by Steve Hooley

A Writer’s Best Friend?

Atticus is a new writers’ program for writing, editing, and formatting. It is on-line based, but can also be downloaded to your computer for off-line work. The program works on Windows, Mac, iOS, Chromebook, and Linux computers. It is available for purchase, even as continuing additions and improvements are made. At this point, its main advantage is a formatting program for Macs and PCs that rivals Vellum (Mac only) for ease of use and beauty of final formatted file.

Atticus produces both PDF and EPUB files. (As of 10/1/21 Amazon Kindle accepts only EPUB files for new books.) I believe I read somewhere that Atticus plans to develop the capability to produce a MOBI file for sideloading into a Kindle device.

I learned about Atticus while reading a review of Vellum. The review was by Dave Chesson, founder of the Atticus project. At the end of the summary at the top, tucked into the end of “Bottom Line,” was a single sentence: “I recommend Atticus overall, though.” I followed the links. (The tutorials are all the way at the bottom.)

I was excited when I saw that the program worked for Windows. I was skeptical when I read their goal of being a combination of Scrivener + Word + Vellum. And I was pulled in to explore more when I saw the price. At that point, the price for “early adopters” was $117. It is currently $147 ($102 cheaper than Vellum). And all continuing and future updates and improvements are free. They had me hooked, and I began exploring.

I found my way to the tutorials, and studied them thoroughly, reading them first, then viewing the computer views while the tutorial was narrated. The tutorials were exceptionally good.

I was most impressed with the formatting component, the component most fully developed at this time. I had downloaded the free Vellum program (for trial use without the ability to produce a file until you pay) on a Mac laptop that I use to write. Atticus seemed to have the ease of use that Vellum is known for. It had been a couple years since I examined Vellum, but Atticus looked like it had more options and choices for theme and style.

I was not impressed with the writing component. (Atticus is currently working on that component). At the time of this writing, the writing component is bare bones, with very few choices for font and size in the writing frame. The chapters are listed in a column on the left (like Scrivener), but that’s where the comparison ends. I write in Scrivener, and I’m guessing that Atticus will have a huge uphill battle in convincing Scrivener users to switch to Atticus for the writing component. Note that Atticus will allow .docx files from other programs to be easily uploaded and formatted.

At the time of this writing, I have not found any editing tool or component (like Word) in the program. The promise is for an editing component. I hope the developers will use an open-source program (such as Open Office or LibreOffice) and develop it for both the writing and the editing tools. That is a weakness of Scrivener (editing). And, if a writer could have the main capabilities of Scrivener, with added robust editing tools (without having to export the file), while being able to produce a .docx file, the writer might be willing to give Atticus a try.

Bottom line for me: I felt like the formatting component alone was worth the price of the program. Until further improvements come along, I plan to write in Scrivener, edit in Word, then upload a docx file into Atticus for formatting.

My experience thus far:

I uploaded a docx file of my first book in my Mad River Magic series. I had a new cover, and I wanted to reformat the interior of the book with a larger font. I also wanted an EPUB file for “going wide.”

I had first reviewed Garry’s “Ten Tips for Formatting eBooks from MS Word” (9/17/20). I removed as much formatting as possible. I specifically removed the front matter and the back matter (as per Atticus recommendations), creating a separate file for future use, and copy and paste capabilities.

I carefully removed existing formatting from the titles and formatted them with H1 style and 20-point size. I removed any spaces between the title and the text.

I then uploaded the docx file to Atticus. It successfully identified all chapter titles, and the beginning of my Table of Contents appeared in the left column.

Atticus did miss some of my scene breaks, (***) (Atticus calls them “ornamental breaks”). I learned by trial and error to remove them and any spaces, put my cursor on the end of the paragraph before the scene break, then “insert ornamental break” from the menu above the writing frame.

Foot notes were a problem for me. I had learned from the tutorials that Atticus changes footnotes into “end notes” (at end of chapter). I use footnotes for the interpretations of my magic spells. I played around with ways to adapt the endnotes, but finally gave up when I discovered that Atticus handles how it displays the numbering differently in PDF and EPUB files. I stripped out the footnotes. I believe that Atticus should standardize how it displays the numbering of end notes so they appear the same in EPUB or PDF.

The formatting came next. It was easy and fun. A window that shows how your formatting looks is placed on the right, and you can see what you are doing.

Adding and formatting front and back matter followed, and was easy, with a few hitches. Template pages can be added from a menu in the TOC column, and show up in the left column TOC. They can be easily dragged and dropped up and down to change their order. You can copy and paste from your front and back matter file (that you created when you stripped them out of your manuscript). If you have chosen your style and theme first, you can see what the page looks like in the formatting window.

Two problems I ran into here were Copyright page and Full-page images. I will say right away that Chris (with support), was unbelievably helpful. Responses to my questions were quick and accurate. Even when we ran into a real bug that needed to be fixed in the program, Chris had a work-around.

The first was mainly due to my stupidity. The copyright page does not show up accurately in the format window. I was used to Kindle formatting the copyright top and center. Atticus kept putting my copyright at the bottom of the page. When Chris explained that the page was formatted that way intentionally, I checked a bunch of books and discovered that the page I never look at was “now” being formatted to the bottom of the page. I didn’t like the way my tiny copyright looked, so I changed the font size from 6 to 8 point and put about 10 empty spaces below it before I repasted it into the formatted page. It worked.

The second problem was full-page images. Having struggled with inserting images into the Kindle formatter, I was amazed at the ease of inserting images into Atticus. The problem arose when the pictures (inserted into the backmatter) disappeared in the EPUB file. The empty page was there. The page was titled in the TOC, but no picture. Chris discovered that a true bug had been found and referred it development, but Chris also found a work around – put the page in the “body” rather than the backmatter. The order was the same, the page showed up in the TOC, and it worked. Two seconds to drag and drop.

Downloading the files:

Down loading the files was simple. Clicking the PDF button opened a screen notifying me that the file would be attached to an email. Clicking the EPUB button downloaded the file directly to my computer. If you have Kindle previewer on your computer (a free Word app), you can preview your EPUB file in Word (when I double clicked the file, Kindle previewer opened directly).

When I uploaded my PDF and EPUB files to Kindle, they were accepted immediately, and no changes were required. That was a new experience for me.

Recommendations:

If you have a Windows PC (or a Mac and are not using Vellum), check out Atticus. My plan is to write in Scrivener, edit in Word, and format in Atticus. I believe the program is worth the price for the formatting alone. And I look forward to those free additions as Atticus works on the Writing component and the Editing component.

Addendum:

Atticus had its official launch last week. At this point, the price is still $147, and improvements are continuing to be made. The link above (in the second paragraph) is an updated landing page with lots of details, including a comparison with Vellum. The tutorials at the very bottom of the page give you a good feel for how the program works and prepare you to jump in and format some beautiful manuscripts.

Some other improvements that Atticus has announced are coming soon:

  • Book writing goals and progress
  • Plotting and outlining features
  • Collaboration
  • Large Print
  • Custom font for writing area
  • Find and replace
  • Set opening page
  • Epub and Mobi import
  • Reusable elements (pages like “Also By” and “About the Author”) can be saved as templates and reused in other books

Okay, TKZ community:

  1. Do any of you have experience with Atticus? What are your thoughts?
  2. What would it take to convince you to use formatting software?
  3. We’ve only scratched the surface, but what other components would you like to see in Atticus?
  4. Do you write and edit on the same computer, or do you use two separate computers?

49 thoughts on “Atticus – New Formatting Software for Writers”

  1. Good morning, Steve. Thanks for the very thorough explanation and evaluation of Atticus. I assume it is named after Herodes Atticus since he was an author.

    To answer your question, I have been writing on a Chromebook and editing on a Windows computer.

    I hope you are having a great weekend, Steve, as you start to utilize the fruits of your woodchopping labors. Be well.

  2. Good morning, Joe. And thanks.

    I had to look up Herodes Atticus. The only explanation for the name, Atticus, that I recall reading is that Atticus means “of or from Athens,” which was the center of knowledge and learning. Herodes Atticus was an Athenian and a Roman senator, so his name probably meant Herodes from Athens.

    Yes, we are enjoying the fruits of our woodchopping labors. The living area of the house is a nice toasty 74 degrees. My office is out of the heating area and is a nice crisp 62 degrees this morning. It keeps me awake.

    Have a great weekend, and enjoy an extra hour of sleep tonight, as we regain an hour we gave up in the spring. I’m not a defender of daylight savings time.

  3. Thanks, Steve. I’m glad someone finally came up with a competitor for Vellum, and one that works for PC as well as Macs, but not for me personally. I’ll be sharing this with the writers who follow my my Journal, but I’m good with using the .epub files I download from Draft2Digital.

    I write in Word, and have templates set up for front and back matter. I write on a 13″ HP writing ‘puter (with a large monitor). I have a separate 14″ HP business computer Iwith another large monitor) for emails, the internet, creating covers, writing sales copy, etc. I don’t edit in the traditional sense.

    • Thanks, Harvey.

      Question: With the system you use, and Draft2Digital, can you set up stylized fonts and chapter headings that show up in your EPUB files? And does Draft2Digital still keep 15% of sales?

      Thanks for your input. And have a great weekend!

      • Steve – D2D lets you download their epbub files (they also, last I used them, will format a mobi file) and use them wherever you want at no charge, so you can take their files to Amazon, Nook, Kobo, etc., and upload them direct, bypassing any D2D cut. I use D2D only for Apple and the “other” markets, like Scribd, Hoopla, etc. Old dog here, not willing to jump through Apple’s hoops since I’m working on a PC. Maybe someday. According to their FAQs, they take 10%.

        • Thanks, Terry. And now, for Amazon, they want an EPUB file. So all you need is one file (unless you want a MOBI file to side-load into a Kindle device.

      • Hi Steve. I had to laugh. My only “system” is churning out stories, and really, I only do that much to find out what happens next. (grin)

        At D2D the chapter heads and other formatting look good. You can choose from a few different formatting styles, but I usually just go with Standard. (With ebooks, the end user can change fonts, etc. on their device. I don’t spend time finagling something the reader can change at a whim.)

        D2D takes a cut for distribution, of course, as does each vendor to whom they distribute. (I’d still use Smashwords and their 80% royalty but the interface is just too clunky.) The only vendor I upload to myself is Amazon.

        As I said, though, I shared a link to your post through my Journal and have already received positive feedback. So thanks again.

  4. Good rundown, Steve. As a Mac-Scrivener-Vellum user, I have no reason to switch. For PC users, though, Atticus is worth it just for the formatting capability. The price is right, too.

    My process: Outline and draft in Scrivener; Word doc for edits; import final doc into Vellum; publish; have champagne.

    • Thanks, Jim. I’m with you on the Scrivener and Word. I’m excited to have a formatting program now. And I may have think about that champagne.

      I wonder why Scrivener has never added robust editing to their program. They’re constantly improving their product.

      Have a great weekend, and enjoy that extra hour of sleep tonight.

  5. I’m with you on Daylight Savings Time—can’t wait to get my hour back!
    If I Indie published, I would be very interested in Atticus. I never thought about switching computers for editing. How does it help?

    • Good morning, Patricia

      I can’t speak for others. There are probably many reasons writers use two different computers for writing and editing. For me, I like to write with a small laptop. I semi-recline in a recliner. Years ago I read some author claiming that it made him more productive. I gave it a try and found that it helped my back, allowing me to write longer. I edit on a desk top with a large monitor, for seeing details better, and keeping me from getting too comfortable.

      Looking forward to your post on 12/4.

      Have a great weekend!

    • Patricia, I’ve used a separate computer for writing for the past five years. In doing so I trained my creative subconscious. When I sit down at the writing ‘puter and put my fingers on the keyboard, the “kids” wake up and are eager to play. It’s great fun. Best of all, any old computer will do as long as it has room for whatever software you use for writing, so you can even pick up a cheap one at a junk shop or garage sale.

  6. Thanks for this thorough and comprehensive review, Steve. I’ll probably ask Santa for Atticus.

    I use Windows 7 and Office 2016 Word on my workhorse computer for writing and editing–KISS (keep it simple stupid). For me, the fewer versions to keep track of, the better.

    Draft2Digital’s formatting has worked well for me. But I don’t like their new print option at all. When I received a proof copy, the spine, front, and back cover material were in a tiny font and there doesn’t seem to be a way to increase the size.

    Have you used Atticus for print?

    • Good morning, Debbie

      I’m with you on keeping things simple. I still have a laptop with Windows 7, and I love it. Why do they have to keep changing something that works? It’s saved me a couple times when I traveled. I normally use a Mac laptop, but this website won’t let me in when I log in from the Mac. Or if I can, it only lets me see the comments from the day before. Easier to just travel with Windows 7.

      I did buy Word 16 for my desktop, because it was the latest version that you could buy rather than paying Microsoft “rent” (should it be “ransom”) for use of Word or Office.

      I did use Atticus for print. It downloaded easily as a PDF. I could easily review it. When I uploaded it to KDP Amazon, it was accepted immediately without any errors. I previewed the book and didn’t see any problems. I have not yet received the author copies I ordered.

      My only beef with Atticus for print (PDF) is the way the end notes are numbered. It is possible to do work arounds if you use footnotes, but Atticus handles the numbering differently in the PDF and EPUB files.

      As for that Christmas present, remind Santa that he’s saving $102 for Atticus vs. Vellum. Maybe he can throw in another gift.

      Have a great weekend!

  7. Thanks for the detailed overview. I doubt I’ll use Atticus (and I always think of “To Kill A Mockingbird” when I see the name).
    I write in Word (Office 365), I edit in Word (although I print a hard “fool the brain” copy as well). I use my desktop with its 27 inch monitor.
    To date, I’ve been satisfied with using D2D to give me an epub for uploading to all the other channels. They have a selection (which they keep promising to expand) of doohickies for chapter and scene breaks.
    Quite honestly, bottom line. At least 98% of my sales come from ebooks, where the end user determines font, layout, etc. I put them in print for book signings and contest prizes, but mostly for my mom, whose macular degeneration has progressed to the point where she can’t read them, but she like to hold them, and she can see my name on the cover.
    I do most of my own formatting for print (which I create via KDP), but I have a guy who does the bits I don’t want to learn–headers and page numbers that conform to convention. Doing the math, I’d have to write 10 more books before I hit the break-even point with what he charges for that formatting step, and I’m not sure I’ll live that long.

    • Thanks, Terry. I thought of you when I was writing this post. You’re the one who said you like to dig into all the bells and whistles in Word. And I believe you were the one who told us about A+ Content on Amazon book sales pages.

      I didn’t mention that Atticus has an option to add a picture (or watermark light picture) above and around the title. You can even do a two-page spread with full picture on the left and above-title picture on the right. (The book is then formatted with all chapters starting on the right.)

      You mentioned scene breaks. Atticus has a bunch of choices, and you can even upload a custom scene break to use.

      And on ebooks, even though the reader picks font and size for reading, doesn’t the title and subtitle stay the way you formatted it?

      Sorry, I’m trying to tempt you to check out a new “creative tool.” When your curiosity gets the better of you, check out the tutorials.

      Have a great weekend!

      • Thanks, Steve. I’m wondering what these formatting bells and whistles do to file size, which impacts the royalty return on ebooks via Amazon. When I get this ms off to my editor, and when I don’t see enough features at D2D, I’ll come back and look at Atticus. I’ve used my own images for scene breaks, and maybe fancy chapter headings look cool, but IMHO, formatting all boils down to ease of reading, especially for someone like me who reads in bed with the font bumped up to super-huge so I can read in the dark without glasses. And, of course, the little matter of the story. 😉

    • Thanks, Deb. I know you’re working on the Trad Pub route, and I wish you the greatest success. But, someday, when you want to go hybrid and self-publish some of your books, you’ll have a tool to use for formatting. And (I just thought of this) when you’re working with your publisher’s interior design person, having looked through Atticus’ tutorials could give you an idea of the options and what you want your book to look like.

      Atticus released (officially) just last week, and already the volume of new users has forced Atticus to upgrade their servers.

      Thanks for stopping by. Have a great weekend!

  9. Good overview, Steve! When I first saw mention of Atticus I emailed Dave Chesson directly and asked if there was a minimum Mac OS spec, and he replied: “No.” It’s browser based so doesn’t matter. = good.

    But I’m pretty set with my iMac-based process: write/edit in Google Docs, send .docx drafts to outside editor(s). For formatting, I use Sigil/HTML for ebooks (to .epub) and InDesign for paper (to PDF). In my view, nothing can match the sophistication of InDesign, especially for typography, H&J options, et al. But if I really wanted an all-in-one solution, I’d give Atticus a hard look. I already use Dave’s Rocket app, and the support from him/them is exceptional.

    • Thanks, Harald, for the information. I’m in awe of your ability to use the tools and programs you use for formatting. I use Google Docs for outlining and love having an online tool to use from anywhere while I’m planning my next book. I know nothing about InDesign, except that it’s the best, and I don’t have the ability to learn how to use it.

      Out of curiosity, how long did it take you to learn InDesign?

      Have a great weekend!

      • Hi Steve. Yes, Adobe InDesign is the industry standard for pro book designers. Here’s just one example: you can adjust both text size and leading (line spacing) to 1/1,000 of a Point. That’s three decimal places.

        But to your question: I guess I’m lucky in that I’ve been doing desktop publishing (which is basically what this is) since 1988, starting with Pagemaker. Then Quark. Then InDesign. So I picked up ID in a matter of hours. But then, I had 30 years of background to start with! 😉

        • Harald, good to know someone else out there used Aldus PageMaker back in the day. 🙂 Today, I use Serif Affinity PagePlus to design and layout my covers, and I’m toying with learning Serif Affinity Publisher. It gives In Design a run for its money, is much less expensive, and is owned vs. rented.

          • I’m with you on the NO RENT thing, Harvey. I splurged several (many?) years ago and bought the whole Adobe Creative Suite, which included Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator, Flash, Dreamweaver, et al. CS4 version. And I’m still using them today! (not Dreamweaver because I can code HTML and design websites myself)

  10. Terrific rundown of Atticus, Steve. I heard about it in one of the Facebook author groups I’m in, but passed on picking it up at the initial price, since I’m happy with Vellum for my formatting and Word (Office 365) and Pages for my writing and editing. Mostly I write and edit in Word, but sometimes I’ll begin a project in Pages, because I can also work on it on my iPad. I own Scrivener both for Mac and iPad, but have found I prefer the elegant simplicity of writing and editing in a word processor.

    I do have two computers, both MacBooks, a newer Air and an older Pro. I mostly write and edit on the Air, which is usually plugged into an old 22 inch flat screen monitor (I’m about due for a new one). I’m happy with my process. My biggest challenge is internet distraction. I have a lifetime subscription to Freedom, which allows me to set limits on my internet access.

    Thanks for the deep dive into Atticus this morning–I enjoyed learning the details. Have a wonderful weekend!

    • Thanks, Dale. Your process sounds like a good one. I often wonder why Scrivener hasn’t added a word processor for editing (and even writing). Scrivener is always making upgrades. Their program writers must be very talented. And there are open-source word processors out there. Why don’t they adapt one for Scrivener?

      Thanks for mentioning Pages. I’ve been writing with a Mac laptop and Scrivener, but am otherwise a Windows person. I need to look into Pages.

      Have a great weekend!

      • I think it’s a deliberate design choice to have limited editing tools in Scrivener. One of my in-person writers group members writes and edits her novels exclusively in Scrivener, and then outputs the finished manuscript in .docx format to be imported to Vellum for formatting. She forgoes some of the editing tools Word provides, but takes advantage of many of the options Scrivener provides, whereas I like having a more robust editor. Other writing friends feel that Word is overpowered for their needs, but I’m quite comfortable using it and Pages.

        BTW, Pages can now create eBooks, but I prefer Vellum.

  11. Thank you Steve. Man, so many options out there. For myself, I love Office 365. In my day job I’m leaning about SharePoint, and I’m also looking at ways to integrate MS solutions in my own writing projects. I guess I’m just too reliant on Word to switch it up – even more so when you can do add on’s for what you need to write effectively.

    • Thanks, Ben, for weighing in. Good points. I guess it’s better to have so many options we can’t keep track of them, than to have too few options. Microsoft and Word certainly have a multitude of options.

      I believe you wrote in a recent comment that you are contemplating going the traditional publishing route. If that is the case, you won’t have to worry about formatting. But it is nice to know the spectrum of choices that exist so you can tell your interior design person what your preferences are.

      Have a great weekend!

  12. Writing software and technology gives me a headache. LOL! While many people swear by Scrivener, I’ve tried it twice and just couldn’t learn to like it. I have not yet tried Atticus, but I very likely will as I don’t use Mac and will need an alternative to Vellum. I’ll continue to watch for people’s comments on it and check out the tutorials you mentioned. Thanks for your insights on it.

    • Good morning, BK. You sound like the perfect candidate for Atticus. It is simple to learn, and they keep making improvements.

      I forgot to add in my addendum that Atticus has just significantly improved the writing component of the program. When I was playing with Atticus, I couldn’t choose a font to write in. There was only one choice, and it was a sans serif font. There was no ability to change the font size. Now you have a choice of several fonts, including a serif, sans serif, a mono space font (for proof reading), a special font that helps people with dyslexia, and even Comic Relief (similar to Comic Sans).

      You can choose font size from 12 to 20.

      I usually write in Comic Sans until I get to the editing. I checked out Comic Relief this morning. I like it better than Comic Sans because you can use italics in Comic Relief. Can’t do italics in Comic Sans.

      Good luck with finding a program that works for you. And have a great weekend!

  13. Thanks for the Atticus review, Steve. I’ve been watching for early users to share their experiences since Dave Chesson first mentioned it.

    I’ve been using Scrivener for non-fiction because I can shift chapters and subchapters around with one touch. Word remains my go-to for fiction and editing any genre. But I hadn’t found a good (read easy-to-use) tool for formatting. So your post comes at the perfect time.

    • Thanks for your comments, Suzanne. I don’t write non-fiction (yet), but otherwise my practices are pretty much the same as yours. I write in Scrivener, and I’m likely to continue to do so. I’ll keep watching Atticus to see what improvements they are making in the writing section.

      In Atticus, chapters can be moved with drag and drop, but I don’t think subsections can be handled in Atticus with anywhere near the capabilities of Scrivener (if at all).

      I am really impressed with Atticus for formatting. They have more formatting options than Vellum and a lower price. After watching and reading the tutorials, I was pretty much ready to go. Plus support was quick and very helpful when I had questions.

      I think the program is worth the price for the formatting alone, which is probably all I’ll use it for.

  14. Very interesting rundown on Atticus, Steve, and I did not know that Amazon no longer accepted Mobi files. I did know they now allowed EPub and Word files but not the Mobi thing. Great! One less step in formatting and uploading.

    My process? KISS. I write in Word on a 15″ laptop hooked to a 24″monitor – a PC with Windows 8 that I wish was still W7. I do drafts in Ariel 12pt and convert to TNR 12 pt for the final proof and conversion. I started formatting ebooks 10 years ago when Calibre was the software of choice. Calibre has a significant learning curve until you stumble upon a simple secret that makes e-conversion a one-minute, 2-step process. I’m also a back-up freak where I have an external hard drive and a cloud portal. I also copy and paste the final ms onto a datastick.

    • Thanks, Garry. Glad you found that simple secret in Calibre.

      On Amazon wanting EPUB files: That’s on new books. I’m not sure about updating existing books. You’ve written that you update your existing books with new pages for other books in your series. Check that out, Mobi vs ePub, on existing books. I don’t want to give you the wrong information. I did completely reformat an existing book last month (referred to in my post), and KDP accepted the EPUB without complaint.

      Have a great weekend!

  15. Thanks for the great rundown on Atticus, Steve.

    I write and edit in Scrivener (Mac). When I’m close to the final version, I export to docx, and finish it there (HP Windows). Then I use Vellum (Mac) to format.

    Since I already have Vellum, I doubt I’ll give Atticus a try, but I’ll be interested to see how things develop. Maybe Atticus will force Vellum to offer more options.

    Enjoy your extra hour of sleep. I know I will. 🙂

    • Thanks, Kay. Scrivener > Word > Vellum. Seems to be a formula for success. I was on the verge of doing the exact same thing when I discovered Atticus. Competition is good for free enterprise and improved products/services.

      Thanks for stopping by. Good luck with your first (official) post.

      Have a great weekend!

  16. I do my screenplays and book interiors in LibreOffice Writer using styles and my covers in LibreOffice Draw with stock images as required. Zero cost, except for images. Avoiding learning curves is a priority. I’m proud of the fact I never learned dBase.

    • Thanks for stopping by, J.

      I’ve used LibreOffice Writer on several computers, because it was free. I’ve never tried LibreOffice Draw. I’ll have to check it out. Can you convert your final images from Draw to jpeg or EPUB files?

      Have a great weekend!

      • Can you convert your final images from Draw to jpeg or EPUB files?

        Good question, Steve. LibreOffice Draw files can be converted to PDF, JPG, PNG, or TIF before closing the ODG file. There are online ODG to EPUB converters.

        OpenOffice is very similar to LibreOffice.

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