Thoughts on Thoughts Revisited
Terry Odell
I’m on the road—or the seas. According to my itinerary, I should be on a boat anchored at Mykonos today. I’m revisiting a post from May, 2022. Since I’m scheduling this before I leave, I have no way of knowing what kind of internet service I’ll have, so forgive me if I don’t respond to comments right away. And, I intend to go ashore and do some sightseeing!
A recent read with the way a debut author handled characters’ thoughts triggered this post. This author handled things differently from my preferences, which pulled me out of the story. Not to say the author was wrong, but it slowed the read. The subject has made it to these pages before, but here’s my take.
I’m a Deep POV person. Doesn’t matter if I’m writing first (rarely, but I’ve done it) or third (where I’m most comfortable, and which is almost first). I want readers to be inside the characters’ heads. The basic 5 senses are obvious, but how do we show what they’re thinking?
**Note: If you’re following the one POV character per scene “rule”, the reader should be well grounded and know who the POV character is, making it easy to know who’s thinking, but there are still techniques that can help.
When I auditioned narrators for my audiobooks, I gave them passages with dialogue, narrative, and internal monologue and told them I wanted it to be clear which was which for listeners. I had one auditioner come back with a “technique” he was very proud of that made it sound like the characters was in a tunnel for thoughts. I gave both that narrator and his technique a pass.
When I was learning the writing craft, having no formal education in the subject, I went to workshops and conferences. One book that showed up on almost every presenter’s Suggested Reading list was Self Editing for Fiction Writers by Browne and King. Another handy booklet I picked up was Going Deep with Point of View by Suzanne Brockmann. Together, they laid the foundation for my approach to handling thoughts (among many other things).
What are my thoughts about writing thoughts? My two biggies:
- Don’t use speaker attributions/tags to tell the reader someone’s thinking.
If you’ve put the reader in the character’s head, it should be obvious they’re thinking. Per Browne & King, removing “he thought” makes them “unobtrusive to the point of transparency.”
Example:
Had he meant to kill her? Not likely, he thought.
Becomes
Had he meant to kill her? Not likely.
The second gets the same point across and is more effective.
They also suggest using the question technique.
Example:
He wondered why he always ended up killing them.
Becomes
Why did he always end up killing them?
Brockmann says “Anytime you interject she thought, she reflected, she guessed and so forth in this way—that’s you speaking, taking on the voice of the narrator, and your doing this takes the reader outside of the character’s head.”
- Beware italics
Italics do have their place, but italicized thoughts should be short—a sentence or two.
My ‘rule of thumb’ is to use italics when the character is talking to himself, and set them off in their own paragraph. Browne & King also suggest it as a useful technique to show a character’s thoughts in the middle of an action scene. Action doesn’t have to be fights and explosions. Here’s an example from my Identity Crisis. The following passage is a mix of narrative and Brett’s thoughts, but there’s only one bit in italics.
After the helicopter had deposited the team five miles down the mountain from the cabin, he, Adam—their team leader—and Fish had hiked up, then taken their positions surrounding the cabin. Since they couldn’t see each other, the only way to communicate was via radio. Then Adam had put the stupid radio silence rule into effect. What did he think? They were all telepathic?
Brett shifted, tightened and released his muscles in an attempt to keep warm. Toes, feet, ankles, calves. Quads, butt, shoulders. After two hours of lying on his belly in the cold, he had doubts he’d be able to move when the order came down. He was an endurance athlete. Not moving wasn’t part of his regimen.
Of course you’ll be able to move. Could be worse. Could be snowing.
Did he detect motion inside the cabin? He adjusted his binoculars. Nothing different. Curtains shifting as the wind blew through rotting walls and broken windows. Brett itched to crawl closer. Hell, just to move, keep the blood flowing.
What does Command know? We’re halfway up a bloody mountain somewhere in Mexico, while they’re sitting on their asses at Ops—where the building was heated, damn it—in San Francisco looking at computer terminals.
Some more examples of the way I handle the technique. Your mileage may vary.
From Falcon’s Prey. Fish is the POV character in this scene. First, a ‘clunky’ version.
“You two are free to get back to whatever you were doing,” Dalton said. “We’ll call if anything changes. Let’s move our seventeen hundred sitrep to eighteen hundred.”
Get back to what they were doing? What did that mean, Fish wondered. Dalton couldn’t think Fish was getting things on with Lexi, could he?
He told himself to chill. He was reading his own thoughts into a casual remark.
He didn’t think he would mind a little diversion. No, for the duration of this assignment, Lexi was the principal. They had plenty to talk about, plenty to catch up on, but getting things on wasn’t one of them.
Fish admitted to himself he had considered it.
Now, the streamlined version, the way it appears in the book. Thoughts should be obvious to the reader.
“You two are free to get back to whatever you were doing,” Dalton said. “We’ll call if anything changes. Let’s move our seventeen hundred sitrep to eighteen hundred.”
Get back to what they were doing? What did that mean? Dalton couldn’t think Fish was getting things on with Lexi, could he?
Chill. You’re reading your own thoughts into a casual remark.
Not that Fish would have minded a little diversion. No, for the duration of this assignment, Lexi was the principal. They had plenty to talk about, plenty to catch up on, but getting things on wasn’t one of them.
Don’t kid yourself. You’ve considered it.
What would the second, cleaner passage look like if all the thoughts were in italics?
“You two are free to get back to whatever you were doing,” Dalton said. “We’ll call if anything changes. Let’s move our seventeen hundred sitrep to eighteen hundred.”
Get back to what they were doing? What did that mean? Dalton couldn’t think Fish was getting things on with Lexi, could he?
Chill. You’re reading your own thoughts into a casual remark.
Not that Fish would have minded a little diversion. No, for the duration of this assignment, Lexi was the principal. They had plenty to talk about, plenty to catch up on, but getting things on wasn’t one of them.
Don’t kid yourself. You’ve considered it.
I don’t know about you, but I find all those italics hard to read—even harder when I’m using my e-reader.
Does this mean you should never use “he thought” in your books? Of course not. It’s only when you’re using them as speaker attributions that you want to be careful. There’s nothing wrong with the “I thought” here:
The bus driver took the corner on two wheels. I was going to die. I thought of all the time my mother had urged me to go to church.
What about you, TKZ peeps. How do you handle character thoughts?
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This is exactly how I do it as well. I use italics when the POV character talks to themselves, and I keep it short. I also prefer deep third which to me is so close to first person and no, I avoid ‘thought’ etc.
I will check out your book suggestions.
Thank you.
Good to read your take on thoughts, Terry. Right now, I’m editing a manuscript by a newer writer who’s struggling with how to convey thoughts and over-explains. “She thought to herself”, “She wondered to herself”, etc.
I think italics work best when they’re used for emphasis like a question, a realization, or a shock.
Enjoy your exploration of Mykonos!
Great post! I handle thoughts the same way. Italics can make for some tiresome reading if more than a sentence or two.
Hope you’re enjoying your trip, Terry!
I don’t mind italics as long as they serve the story. Whatever it takes to keep the reader engaged.
Italics ARE hard to read – and I agree with keeping direct thoughts (those in the words a character would have inside their head) short. But I use them mixed in with the rest – thoughts direct and indirect, and dialogue, within the same paragraph.
My particular style (in deep third pov) uses italics to mark both emphasis/stress and those short direct thoughts. They are rarely longer than a sentence, and are in FIRST person pov.
Here’s a chunk from the current scene:
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“Ye’ll have a much better time without me.” At George’s skeptical look, he had no trouble adding a huge yawn. The band’ll enjoy New York’s night life without an Oscar-winning frontman hogging the limelight at every turn. The award was too fresh for press oblivion. And the groupies in those dives were the kind who noticed and knew. The next yawn echoed George’s. “Leviathan’s Captain Johansen has been at the helm under fire for the past week.”
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I can’t get this site to let me use italics in comments, as you did in the post, but the phrase, ‘The band’ll enjoy New York’s night life without an Oscar-winning frontman hogging the limelight at every turn.’ is a direct thought, and in my published work will be in italics, as will the title of the movie he’s working on, Leviathan.
The chunk, ‘The award was too fresh for press oblivion. And the groupies in those dives were the kind who noticed and knew.’ is INdirect thought, so in the regular font – but outside quotation marks. Andrew THINKS that, but not necessarily in those exact words (it’s a bit of exposition).
The paragraph works without the italics – thoughts are thoughts – but I like having a way to mark the most important ones, and keep them short and italicized so you get the closest identification with Andrew possible.
I haven’t had any complaints; once a reader has been through a couple of scenes it becomes obvious, and is my style/voice.
The key, as with everything you ask a reader to accept, is consistency. I need these choices to tell the story my way, but the point is the story, not the stylistic changes, so they should vanish into the background as quickly as possible.
I haven’t yet found how to create the same effects in audio. But whether I do the audiobooks or find someone to, I’m looking for a way which works for my novels, as you are.